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Linda Kubina
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(1/30/04 11:48 pm)
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RIGHT! again!
p. 1218, line 13
"it shows one of the stab WOUNDS that had gone into the front of her heart".
p. 1218, line 24
"there are MULTIPLE in the heart and the back of the heart internal."
p. 1240, line 2
"it was one of the stab WOUNDS from the lower left chest that went through the heart" ~by vra~
one of the stab WOUNDS that had gone into the front of her heart".
one
MULTIPLE in the heart and the back of the heart internal."
internal."
from the lower left chest that went through the heart"
lower left chest
So, what's your point?
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Linda Kubina
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(1/31/04 12:00 am)
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IN the heart...
"MULTIPLE in the heart and the back of the heart internal."
MULTIPLE in
in
The pathologist gave an explanation for the stab wounds IN the heart; care to post it, VRA? If you choose not to do so, I'll be glad to explain.
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Linda Kubina
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(1/31/04 1:34 am)
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It would appear as though...
you're ill/uninformed, at a disadvantage, and at my mercy, xyzzz...the very least you might do is ask please. Or, you might consult w/ Dwight Hale (but, let me tell you, he gets angry when PROVED WRONG). It might un-nerve you; but, to tell you the truth,  I enjoyed seeing Hale seethe.
xyzzz
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(1/30/04 10:30 pm)
Reply killer had detailed info on victim's wounds
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I wrote "Early press reports did NOT reveal that the murder victim was stabbed several times in the heart."
Kubina wrote: Like I proved Dwight Hale WRONG when he made that same statement, I'll be more than glad to prove you WRONG, as well. Next cc meeting? I'll bring the article.
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I don't live in Decatur, and won't be attending the City Council meeting. But you could post the article here.
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Linda Kubina
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(1/31/04 1:58 am)
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Me, needing to prove a point?
"Post the entire article if it helps to prove your point." ~ xyzzz
Let you in on a little something, xyzzz, I really need to prove nothing! The Judge and the Appellate/Supreme Courts have already proved all that needs to be proved. I'm here only to 'enlighten' you who are un-knowing. Got it?
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Linda Kubina
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(1/31/04 2:39 am)
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just because...
xyzzz
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(1/30/04 12:24 am)
Reply Decatur Daily? Chris Bell? Yeah, right.
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Decatur Daily reported Karen was murdered ON THE FIRST FLOOR
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That's lame, Linda. We all know that article was wrong. Her body was upstairs. She was killed upstairs where Daniel Moore said he was.
"We all know that article was wrong."
We all know that Daniel was wrong when he said Karen was "MURDERED ON THE FIRST FLOOR", correct?
"She was killed upstairs where Daniel Moore said he was."
Where Daniel said he was 'disableing the alarm', correct?
Is it not also correct that Sarah Holden testified she told the police right after the murder Karen Tipton told her (Sarah) she (Karen) had disabled the alarm because of a malfunction? Now, why would Daniel say he disabled the alarm if the alarm had already been disabled? Think, perhaps, because Daniel had NO IDEA that Karen had disabled the alarm? Of course, he didn't! Because, Daniel was NOT in the house the day of the murder and had NO KNOWLEDGE of the condition of the alarm at that time. But! The police LIED all along and said the assailant disabled the alarm, correct? The police maintained that LIE since the day after (first article) the murder and throughout the trial! Their (DPD) LIE was printed in the paper numerous times since the day after the murder. The prosecution (DPD/AG's office) also LIED and said Daniel gained entrance to the Tipton home by using the ruse that he was there to repair the alarm. BULLSHIT! Daniel was not and had not been working for the alarm company for months so he couldn't possibly have known the alarm was broken/in need of repair. Much to the 'cheat -n- deceit' fan clubs disdain, Daniel lacked factual details concerning the murder of Karen Tipton...only what was printed in various newspapers.
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Litesnite
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(1/31/04 8:10 am)
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Re: just because...
Now, why would Daniel say he disabled the alarm if the alarm had already been disabled?
I know I know!!!!
Same reason Danny D Devil, said he was in the Tipton home, the day KAREN TIPTON was killed!
He didn't want to go to jail for bad checks!! he was just thinking of others!,
Didn't want his grandparents to be put out of their home, because of his bad check writing,
Wait! That does not make sense either cause if Danny had killed himself, then their home would no longer even be involved, cause you can't convict a dead man.
SO in the real word the home was never the 'danger' of ANYONE loosing it, Unless DannyDDevil was going on the RUN??????
that is the ONLY reason bond $$$ is put up so the charged will not leave town!!!!
MORE LIES every where you look,
Linda, you seen April? I'd be giving her a call, she done run off with your transcripts! reckon she was under cover for AG's office????................THINK about it LINDA........
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xyzzz
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(1/31/04 1:56 pm)
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Daniel Moore had DIRECT KNOWLEDGE of the murder
I wrote "Early press reports did NOT reveal that the murder victim was stabbed several times in the heart."
Kubina wrote: Like I proved Dwight Hale WRONG when he made that same statement, I'll be more than glad to prove you WRONG, as well. Next cc meeting? I'll bring the article.
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Then I wrote: "I can't attend the City Council meeting. Just post the part that reveals that the murder victim was stabbed several times in the heart. Go ahead and prove that Daniel Moore got this information from the newspaper, rather than from his direct knowledge of the murder."
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Kubina replied: I really need to prove nothing! The Judge and the Appellate/Supreme Courts have already proved all that needs to be proved. I'm here only to 'enlighten' you who are un-knowing.
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We don't have to beg Kubina for an article that's available for purchase at the Huntsville Time's website. They'll mail or FAX you one for a small fee. Indeed, Chris Bell wrote an article March 14, 1999 describing wounds to Karen's body. He doesn't give the source of his information, saying "police refused to comment," but says:
"Mrs. Tipton had been stabbed and cut on the chest, her ears were wounded and her throat slashed, the sources said, and she also had apparently been strangled."
The article says NOTHING ABOUT HER BEING STABBED IN THE HEART SEVERAL TIMES, which (as Pustilnik's testimony shows) was the cause of death.
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Now you know why Kubina wouldn't post the Chris Bell article. The article shows that Kubina has lied about its contents in this forum. Daniel Wade Moore knew the details of the victims wounds (multiple stab wounds to the heart) and the cause of death. He told the details to his Uncle and his Uncle told the police. Daniel Moore could NOT have gotten these details from the press because they weren't in the press. They were NOT in Chris Bell's article, either. Daniel Moore had DIRECT KNOWLEDGE of the murder.
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VRA
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(1/31/04 3:39 pm)
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transcript: Valeska and dwm
transcript, p. 3208
Valeska: Now, after you had done all this buying of crack cocaine on 12 March 1999, where did you go that night?
Moore: I went back to my apartment in Hanceville, Alabama, sir.
Q: Where did you go the next day?
A: I might have gone to work. I might have come back to Decatur, sir. I'm not real sure.
Q: What about the day after that?
A: I'm not real sure, sir.
Q: And the reason you're not very sure is because you were strung out on dope, you didn't know what you were doing, right?
A: NO SIR, NOT REALLY AT THAT POINT, NO.
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Testimony from David Redmon, a cellmate of Daniel Wade Moore. Redmon testified he'd known Moore for 10-15 years. page 2334
Q: And what if anything did Mr. Moore tell you?
A: He said David, he said, man, I was so strung out on drugs when this happened, on crack. I don't really know what all happened. He said, I never meant to hurt anybody. I've just been strung out. He said, I've been out there.
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xyzzz
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(2/1/04 3:52 pm)
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she let him in the house, then he killed her
The prosecution (DPD/AG's office) also LIED and said Daniel gained entrance to the Tipton home by using the ruse that he was there to repair the alarm. BULLSHIT! Daniel was not and had not been working for the alarm company for months so he couldn't possibly have known the alarm was broken/in need of repair.
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Daniel Moore probably couldn't have known the Tipton's alarm system was needing repair, unless he had broken into his former employer's office and found repair orders showing the Tipton alarm system needed work. He had broken into his boss's office before. As a former employee, he would know where to look for the repair orders. Seems possible. But Moore probably didn't have to know the alarm was broken in order to gain entrance to the Tipton home. The Tiptons had an alarm system that had some wireless or battery-operated components to it, and routine visits for battery changes were required, whether the system was working or not. That alone could have provided him a pretext for showing up there.
Moore himself also told Officer Pettey that he had been to the home alone before on a service call. Apparently Mrs. Tipton had allowed him entrance to the home before. Maybe she answered the door, saw Moore (who had been there twice before), saw the toolbox, and just said "come on in" and began explaining about the alarm trouble. Or maybe he made up something to gain entrance. It's well-known that Moore's a clever liar; even he has admitted as such.
We'll never know what was said at the doorway before Karen Tipton let Daniel Moore in the house, not unless Daniel Moore tells us. And I expect that's not something he'll be sharing anytime soon.
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Linda Kubina
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(2/1/04 8:43 pm)
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xyzzz...were you dozing (as your moniker implies) when
the facts were revealed? Obviously!
"Daniel Wade Moore knew the details of the victims wounds (multiple stab wounds to the heart)"
Karen Tipton had one (1) stab wound to the heart. The reason for "multiple IN the heart" is because the pathologist said when the knife was plunged into Karen's heart, her heart was still beating, therefore, causing multiple wounds IN the heart. You do realize there's a difference between TO and IN?
Wake-up, xyzzz, tell you something else...Sparky's statement is second-hand info; so, therefore, is most likely not exact or 'verbatim'. Did you not think about that? Nah...you're not capable.
"Moore himself also told Officer Pettey that he had been to the home alone before on a service call. Apparently Mrs. Tipton had allowed him entrance to the home before. Maybe she answered the door, saw Moore (who had been there twice before), saw the toolbox, and just said "come on in"
Pay attention, xyzzz, Daniel had been to the Tipton home one time...WITH HOWARD GODBEE. AGAIN, WITH HOWARD GODBEE. NEVER alone.
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Linda Kubina
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(2/1/04 9:00 pm)
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wakey, wakey, xyzzz...
"The article says NOTHING ABOUT HER BEING STABBED IN THE HEART SEVERAL TIMES, which (as Pustilnik's testimony shows) was the cause of death."
The only way of knowing Karen had been stabbed IN the heart several times was to do an autopsy. Perhaps someone in the medical profession might realize if you plunge a knife into someone's heart while it is still beating it would cause multiple stab wounds IN the heart, but I don't think most (of course, other than aforementioned) folks would consider this. From the surface, Karen had been stabbed to the heart one (1) time.
You, xyzzz, are as fact-less as was Daniel.
Actually, I have volumes of articles, documents, etc. relating to this case; so, it takes some time to 'put my finger' on what I'm looking for. Good to see you're capable of doing some research on you own... also, good to see you're man enough to 'admit' when you're WRONG (none of the details relating to this case had been released).
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VRA
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(2/1/04 11:21 pm)
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transcript
xyzzz wrote
Moore himself also told Officer Pettey that he had been to the home alone before on a service call.
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Linda Kubina wrote:
Pay attention, xyzzz, Daniel had been to the Tipton home one time...WITH HOWARD GODBEE. AGAIN, WITH HOWARD GODBEE. NEVER alone.
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Transcript, p. 2458
Mr. Dill: Let me ask you this, Officer. Did you ask the Defendant if he had ever been at Karen Tipton's house?
Officer Pettey: We did.
Q: And what was his response?
A: Well, initially he stated he didn't know who we were speaking of.
Q: Did he come back later and tell you--
A: He did. When we mentioned Mr. Godbee, if he had worked for him, he stated, yes, I know who you're talking about and then stated that he had been to the Tipton residence prior.
Q: And did he state how many times he had been there?
A: He said that he had been to the Tipton residence on one occasion with Mr. Godbee AND ONE TIME BY HIMSELF he thought.
Q: And what else, if anything, did Moore say at this portion of the interview?
A: Well, after that he didn't -- during the time that we were speaking with him and we were talking in regards to the death of Mrs. Karen Tipton, Mr. Moore became shaken I would say would be my characterization of his activities. He became visibly nervous to the point to where you could visibly see that his hands were shaking.
(Moments later, when left alone, Daniel Moore stabbed himself in the chest 16 times.)
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Transcript, p. 1683
Howard Godbee: I know I went in twice in one day one time because I had to get more batteries. Or if he was, you know, on two different occasions there, I don't remember, but I know HE WAS THERE WITH ME A COUPLE OF TIMES I believe.
Valeska: And the TWO TIMES he went with you he rode in y'all's vehicle?
Howard Godbee: Yes, sir.
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p. 1685
Q: And the TWO TIMES that you and Daniel went, were there children there?
A: Every time I've been there there was usually children there.
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p. 1686
Q: Now the TWO TIMES that you went with Daniel Moore, was Dr. Tipton there if you remember?
A: I don't believe Dr. Tipton was there...
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Linda Kubina
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(2/1/04 11:29 pm)
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pardon me.
as you well know, I'm without the benefit of the trial transcript.
Transcript, p. 1683
Howard Godbee: I know I went in twice in one day one time because I had to get more batteries. Or if he was, you know, on two different occasions there, I don't remember, but I know HE WAS THERE WITH ME A COUPLE OF TIMES I believe.
Valeska: And the TWO TIMES he went with you he rode in y'all's vehicle?
Howard Godbee: Yes, sir.
Howard Godbee: I know I went in twice in one day one time because I had to get more batteries.
I went in twice in one day
but I know HE WAS THERE WITH ME A COUPLE OF TIMES I believe.
HE WAS THERE WITH ME
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Linda Kubina
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(2/1/04 11:33 pm)
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If you will notice, vra,
that on the other thread I've posted the portion of the trial transcript you seemingly were so RELUCTANT to post.
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xyzzz
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(2/2/04 12:14 am)
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wrong about Cullman story, wrong about Chris Bell
"One thing I did notice was that it was never revealed in court that just previous to telling his uncle that he had been at the 'affluent psychriatrists' wife's house' Daniel said he had been at a house in Cullman when a man was murdered."
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Want to go ahead and admit you were wrong about this? Daniel's uncle told of it, Daniel Moore told of it, and it was mentioned in closing argument. Guess you missed those three days of testimony, huh, Miss "Informed Expert"?
I still say early press reports did NOT reveal that the victim was stabbed several times in the heart. Moore told his Uncle this, and he could NOT have gotten it from a newspaper. You still have NOT posted one single news article that gives that information. You can't because there aren't any. Chris Bell's article said NOTHING about stab wounds to the heart, did it, Linda? You misrepresented or lied about the contents of that article, and the proof is in this discussion thread.
Moore told his Uncle about the victim's stab wounds to the heart, and his Uncle told the police. Now you suggest the Uncle could have misquoted Daniel Moore! That's a new one. I don't think Daniel Moore was misquoted; his Uncle gave the police a statement the very next day after Moore's confession. Seems to me like the Uncle took it all very seriously; he knew damn well Daniel Moore was the type who could have been involved in a murder. At least you stopped short of calling the Uncle a liar, like you've done so many other people. In your psychotic world view, I guess everyone's a liar, except Daniel Moore, who, in reality, is an admitted liar.
The truth of it is that there were multiple stab wounds to the chest area over the victim's heart. And there were multiple wounds inside the heart. Yet you want us to believe that all the wounds in the heart came from just ONE of the exterior wounds. I think that's a good example of the kind of nonsense you've had to embrace in order to believe that Moore is innocent.
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Linda Kubina
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(2/2/04 12:38 am)
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So, what's your point, xyzzz?
Want to go ahead and admit you were wrong about this? Daniel's uncle told of it, Daniel Moore told of it, and it was mentioned in closing argument. Guess you missed those three days of testimony, huh, Miss "Informed Expert"?
I still say early press reports did NOT reveal that the victim was stabbed several times in the heart.
Want to go ahead and admit you were wrong about this? Daniel's uncle told of it, Daniel Moore told of it, and it was mentioned in closing argument. Guess you missed those three days of testimony, huh, Miss "Informed Expert"?
Kindly post the exerpts from the trial transcript (verbatim).
"I still say early press reports did NOT reveal that the victim was stabbed several times in the heart."
Of course they didn't silly, because Karen was not stabbed several times in the heart. Karen was stabbed one (1) time in the heart (that caused multiple injuries to the organ because it was still beating) and multiple times in the chest. It appears that both you, and Daniel, are/were WRONG about the amount of times, and where, Karen was stabbed. Daniel said four or five times in the heart when in actuality Karen was stabbed 28 times (one (1) time in the heart).
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Justice4KAREN
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(2/2/04 10:15 am)
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Linda...
 LooneyBina...You need to step it up a notch! VRA is making you look like a FOOL! Personally, I LOOOVVEEE the way that you change your story once VRA proves you are wrong/were lieing/misrepresenting the truth. But, you're quickly losing it! VRA keeps shooting you down time and time again!
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charlie
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(2/2/04 4:48 pm)
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Make up your mind, Linda Kubina
First you posted a portion of the transcript (at least your claim) (Note 2/1/04 at 11:16 pm) (see “MARTIN SCOTT LANE (transcript)” topic)
(2/1/04 11:16 pm)
MARTIN SCOTT LANE (transcript)
Examination
by Mr. Powell
2276 …
THEN, you post the following (Note 2/1/04 11:46 pm) (see RAPE SHIELD LAW page 4)
(2/1/04 11:29 pm)
RAPE SHIELD LAW page 4
pardon me.
as you well know, I'm without the benefit of the trial transcript.
So which way is it, LK?
Which LIE are you telling now?
Do you have a transcript, or don’t you?
Do you just MEMORIZE portions of the testimony?
Do you obtain it by osmosis? Do you receive it telepathically from the ‘others’?
Do you get it from the voices in your head?
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karen melinda
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(2/2/04 5:18 pm)
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second-hand info
Wake-up, xyzzz, tell you something else...Sparky's statement is second-hand info; so, therefore, is most likely not exact or 'verbatim'. Did you not think about that? Nah...you're not capable.
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Hmmmmmmmmm, kinda like all that second-hand info in the FBI "report" from all those other people. Did you not think about that? Nah...you're not capable.
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