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Tornado18
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Karen Tipton
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3 - 5 years ago, a woman named Karen Tipton was murdered at her
home during broad daylight in the middle of the day. A young man
named Daniel Moore is being accused of murdering her. The FBI has
not turned in alot of evidence and Mr. Moore is sitting in jail
right now, which I know he did not do it...also, I have a question
for you guys, you probably don't know the answer though. But the
question is...Karen Tipton's husband, is a Doctor. A psychriast to
be exact...when they when into hte house, they found a bag of
marijuana that probably weight 8-15 pounds...and he never even got
charged for it, when other people would get charged because they
have enough marijuana to cover the top of a quarter...how come this
guy is not being charged?
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Re: Karen Tipton
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Forensic experts get differing results
By Sheryl Marsh
DAILY Staff Writer
smarsh@decaturdaily.com • 340-2437
The
jury in Daniel Wade Moore's capital murder trial heard conflicting
results from DNA testing that different labs performed on hairs from
Karen Tipton's home after she was killed.
Roger Morrison,
director of the Huntsville laboratory of the state Department of
Forensic Sciences, continued testifying Tuesday about a nuclear DNA
test that he conducted and a mitochondrial DNA test that a private
firm in Louisiana performed.
Analysts yielded different
results from testing of a hair from a towel beside the bed. In
addition, an analyst from a state laboratory in Jacksonville, who
conducted a microscopic test, gave still a different result on the
hair from the towel.
Results from the private lab in New
Orleans concluded that Dr. David Tipton could not be excluded as a
DNA donor on the hair. The Huntsville lab concluded that the DNA was
consistent with Karen Tipton's. The Jacksonville lab, from a
comparison examination under a microscope, rendered an opinion that
the hair was consistent with Moore's pubic hair.
Morrison
explained the differences in the procedures of testing, and
concluded he is confident of the testing and results he rendered
that say the DNA is consistent with Karen Tipton.
Hair
consistent with Moore's
John Case, a trace evidence examiner
at the Jacksonville lab, said he compared known hair samples of
Moore and of Tipton, but he did not have any from Dr. Tipton. He
said under the microscope he was able to study the characteristics
of each hair and make comparisons. He concluded that a hair from the
bed and one from the towel were consistent with Moore's.
Case said he's not surprised that his findings were
different because microscopic examination is to find similarities;
it is not DNA testing. Once he completed his tests, Case said he
sent the hairs to Morrison. Morrison said he forwarded the hairs to
Reliagene, the private lab.
Moore, 26, has been on trial since
Nov. 6 in Morgan County Circuit Court for the March 12, 1999,
stabbing death of Karen Tipton.
The trial continues today in
Circuit Judge Glenn Thompson's courtroom.
Both the state and
private laboratory DNA tests rendered the same results from tests of
a pubic hair found in Karen Tipton's bed, showing they are
consistent with her and Moore.
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/021113/tipton2.shtml
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Re: Karen Tipton
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Dr. Tipton describes scene
Testimony focuses on
blood,
marijuana and Internet flirting
By Sheryl Marsh
DAILY Staff Writer
smarsh@decaturdaily.com • 340-2437
A prosecutor asked Dr. David Tipton to tell the jury about
the day his wife died, but a defense lawyer wanted to know about a
friend who asked to swap mates, a live-in nanny, and a special room
where his friends played music and smoked marijuana.
Dr.
Tipton gave lengthy testimony Tuesday during Daniel Wade Moore's
capital murder trial in Morgan County Circuit Court.
Moore,
26, is charged with the March 12, 1999, stabbing death of
39-year-old Karen Tipton, the doctor's wife.
Dr. Tipton said
they got up that morning about 6:45 and he prepared for work while
his wife got the children ready for school. They left at the same
time and kissed goodbye in the driveway of their Chapel Hill Road
Southwest home.
That afternoon, Dr. Tipton said, he left his
office in Huntsville, where he is a psychiatrist, after making phone
calls about 3:30. He said he arrived home at about 4:15.
He
said someone had taken the security key pad off the wall at the
garage entrance into the home and placed it on a kitchen counter. He
went to the foyer to hang his coat in a closet and that's when he
saw drops of blood on the floor.
When he went closer to the
front door, he saw a larger amount of blood that looked like someone
had tried to wipe it up, he said.
Then he started upstairs.
"One step from the very top I could see her feet. I screamed
once, a second time and a third time," Dr. Tipton said.
He
checked his wife's pulse and she was dead.
When he tried to
call 911 from the phone in the master bedroom and from the kitchen,
he said, the lines were dead. He started to go next door to a
neighbor's to use the phone when he said he thought to use a second
line in his home that's designated for a fax machine and the
Internet.
When police arrived, Dr. Tipton said the 911
operator told him to step outside, which he did, and then he and the
officer went back inside and looked at the body. Dr. Tipton said
after other officers arrived, he sat in the back of a patrol car and
later they took him to the police station to answer questions.
Police told him that his daughters were fine, they were with a
family friend.
Dr. Tipton said he and his family moved into
the Southwest Decatur home in 1994, and had Advance Electronics and
Alarms Co. install a security system. In October 1998, he said, he
arrived home one day as AEA owner Howard Godbee and Moore, who
worked for the alarm company, were finishing a service job on the
system. He said Moore was on a ladder in the great room working on
wires, and to his knowledge he never saw the defendant in his home
again.
Dr. Tipton said a video camera was among items missing
from his home.
A man testified last week that Moore traded
him a video camera for crack cocaine several hours after Karen
Tipton died.
Dr. Tipton did not say that the video camera
taken from his home was the one that witness Darnell Ellison said
Moore traded for drugs.
In addition to the camera, Dr.
Tipton said several pieces of his wife's jewelry, including an
emerald ring and diamond earrings, were missing along with his
wife's purse, which contained credit cards, cash and a cell phone.
He said his wife kept between $100 and $200 in her purse. Dr. Tipton
said someone ransacked the room and left dresser drawers open.
Police did not recover any of the stolen items, he said.
Assistant Attorney General Don Valeska asked Dr. Tipton about a
gym bag, which contained marijuana and hashish that defense lawyers
entered as evidence last week, and the psychiatrist said it belonged
to him.
Valeska concluded Tuesday with a pointed question
for Dr. Tipton.
"David, did you sneak out of your office on
March 12, 1999, and harm your children's mama?"
Dr. Tipton
answered no.
He said he and his wife loved each other and they
had a good marriage.
"We were happy and had everything that
anybody would want," Dr. Tipton said.
Drugs, Internet
flirting
Defense attorney Sherman Powell Jr. questioned Dr.
Tipton about a woman who moved into his home, after his wife's
death, to be his children's nanny and housekeeper.
Dr.
Tipton said he called Mary Dalton, who lived in Michigan, the day
after his wife's death and told her he needed help. He said Dalton
once lived here and was a friend to him and his wife.
Dr.
Tipton said Dalton worked and lived in his home from March 1999 to
October 2000. He said he paid her between $30,000 and $35,000, and
gave her a van for her services. He also said he paid Dalton's
daughter for helping her mother in his home.
Powell showed
Dr. Tipton copies of canceled checks to both the women. Dalton
received checks for $10,000, $9,700 and $2,000, and her daughter
received a check for $10,000.
In addition, Powell showed him
numerous other checks that he wrote to Dalton, and Dr. Tipton said
he issued all the checks that the lawyer presented.
Powell
also asked Dr. Tipton if Dalton had ever told him about his wife's
associations with other men, and Dr. Tipton said about five months
after the death, rumors were circulating, and he and Dalton had such
discussions at that time.
He asked Dr. Tipton about a room
on the third floor of his home that contained numerous guitars.
The doctor described the instruments and said the most
expensive one cost $3,000. He said all the instruments were worth
about $20,000.
"Is this where the pickin' and grinnin'
parties took place?" Powell asked.
Dr. Tipton said he and
friends got together to play music, and they smoked marijuana.
Powell asked Dr. Tipton about a man named Michael Ezell.
Dr. Tipton said the two of them grew up together in Rogersville.
Then, Powell asked if he knew about an instant message that
Karen Tipton got while she was on the Internet one time.
Dr.
Tipton said that happened about two months before her death. He said
she came upstairs and told him that Ezell was flirting with her
online.
Powell asked if he knew that Ezell suggested that he
and Karen Tipton swap partners.
After the judge ruled on
prosecution objections to the question, Dr. Tipton said he did know
about the suggestion to swap mates.
Powell showed Dr. Tipton
a statement that he said Ezell gave police, which said, "I did ask
Karen Tipton about swapping partners."
Powell then asked Dr.
Tipton about his screen name on the Internet and the witness
answered "dtiptonmd."
At that point, Circuit Judge Glenn
Thompson sent the jury out of the courtroom to discuss the issue
between the attorneys. No one disclosed the contents of the
discussion, but Valeska argued, "The flip side of the coin is that
if she had been hooked up to the Billy Graham Crusade, I couldn't
offer that."
Dr. Tipton's testimony resumed today.
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/021113/tipton.shtml
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Re: Karen Tipton
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Alleged witness details
talk with Karen Tipton
Murphy: Man
threatened victim in Decatur store
By Sheryl Marsh
DAILY
Staff Writer
smarsh@decaturdaily.com • 340-2437
Diane Murphy
said murder victim Karen Tipton told her to get a good look at her
face so if anything happened to her, Murphy could tell police about
the man who threatened to kill her in Kmart.
Murphy gave
Daniel Wade Moore's attorneys, Sherman Powell and Catherine
Halbrooks, information recently about an incident that she said she
witnessed between Tipton and a man at the Decatur store.
"I
saw her about a couple of weeks before she got killed," Murphy told
THE DAILY on Wednesday. "He was following her in the store. She told
him to leave her alone and they were fussing there. He said, 'You
are mine and you're going to be mine.' And, she said, 'Oh no I'm
not, I'm married to a doctor and you'll never fit up to him.' She
told him to quit calling her and leave her alone."
She said
the man was not Moore. She said he was of medium weight and height,
and had sandy-brownish hair and bluish-green eyes. She said he was
not wearing a shirt and had on white pants that were covered with
different colors of paint.
"I was just standing there and
she told me, 'Can you believe this? Look at him, look at him. He
keeps bothering me and calling me all the time. I don't want to have
nothing to do with him.' Then, she started laughing and he said,
'I'm going to kill you.'
"She told me to get a real good
look at her face and if anything happened to her not to let him get
away with it," Murphy said.
The lawyers attached Murphy's
affidavit to a motion they filed Tuesday asking for acquittal or a
new trial for Moore. The affidavit did not contain all the
conversation that Murphy said she heard between Tipton and the man.
Mailbox encounter
Murphy said she traveled Chapel Hill
Road Southwest every day, going from Decatur where she cleans homes
to Danville, and one day she saw Tipton at her mailbox.
"That's
how I learned where she lived. One day I passed by and I saw her at
the mailbox and I saw him in a car and he was revving up the motor
and she motioned for him to go on. He said something to her, but I
couldn't hear what he said."
Murphy said she passed the home
March 12, 1999, the day of Tipton's murder, and she saw the same man
speeding out of Tipton's neighbor's driveway. She said he was
driving a car that was wrecked on one side and he followed her to
the stop sign at Chapel Hill and Danville roads.
"He came up
beside me and asked me did I see anything and I said, 'Yea, I saw
you coming out of that driveway like a nut.' I asked him what was I
supposed to see and he said, 'If you saw anything, I would have to
do to you what I did to her.' I asked him what did he do to her and
he said 'Never mind — you don't want to know.' He continued to
follow me and then he turned around and went back the other way,"
Murphy said.
The next day, she said, she passed by on her
way to work and saw crime-scene tape around Tipton's home.
"I
thought, 'Oh no, he killed her,' and when I got to work I saw her
picture on TV."
Two or three days later, Murphy said, she
talked to an investigator with the Decatur Police Department, but
she does not remember his name or what he looks like. She said the
investigator took her to Tipton's home and she showed him where she
saw the man coming from and told the investigator what he said to
her.
She said the investigator wrote down her name and phone
numbers, and told her he would get in contact with her, but she
never heard from him again.
Attempts to contact
investigators, to ask if they remember talking to Murphy, were
unsuccessful.
Chief questions story
Police Chief Joel
Gilliam said the investigators did a thorough job of investigating
and Moore's conviction brought closure to the murder. He questioned
Murphy's inability to remember names and times.
Alabama
Assistant Attorney General Don Valeska declined to comment on
Murphy's information, but said his office will oppose the motion the
attorneys filed for a new trial or acquittal.
"The jury has
heard all the evidence and reached their verdict," Valeska said.
A Morgan County jury convicted Moore, 28, in November of
capital murder for the 1999 stabbing death of 39-year-old Tipton.
Circuit Judge Glenn Thompson set aside a jury's
recommendation of life without parole and sentenced Moore to death
Jan. 23.
Murphy said the death sentence is what broke her
silence.
"I kept thinking somebody would call me to go to court
during the trial, but they didn't," she said. "Then, I decided I
wasn't going to fool with it, but when the judge gave him the death
penalty, I said I just do not believe this boy did it and I am going
to open my mouth. The state of Alabama has killed one, Keith
Johnson, who didn't pull the trigger and they know it. So, I'm not
going to sit back knowing all of this and let another one die."
Murphy said she does not know Moore, his family or anyone
else involved in the case.
"There's just no need in me
sitting back and letting another innocent person die," she said.
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debunker2
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Lies about the
Tipton murder case #1
Daniel Moore left two of his hairs in the crime scene. They were
compared microscopically and were found to be consistent (based on
appearance under a microscope) with Daniel Moore. One was found in a
washcloth covered by Karen's blood, in the torture bed. That hair,
thought to be Moore's pubic hair, had been forcibly removed, and had
a skin tag attached. Genomic DNA study of that skin tag showed two
persons' DNA present in a mixture. So the hair was washed, and a
mitochondrial DNA study was done on it, in effect, to separate the
two DNA profiles in the mixture.
The mitochondrial DNA of
this hair was matched to Daniel Wade Moore with a certainty of 99.8
percent. The mitochondrial DNA of the second hair, without skin tag
attached, also matched Daniel Wade Moore with a certainty of 99.8
percent.
The genomic DNA mixture was found to contain Karen
Tipton's DNA (her blood washed off Moore's hair) with a certainty
level of 2 billion--that's 2,000,000,000--to one certainty. And the
same mixture matched Moore's genomic DNA "contribution" with a
certainty level of 7.5 million--that's 7,500,000--to one.
Sheryl Marsh, in her coverage of the trial, never mentioned
these large numbers. Instead, her headline was that three different
laboratories had three different results on the hair, implying there
was some conflict in the data between the three independent
laboratories. The three labs and their results
were:
Microscopic Evaluation: hair sample consistent with
Moore's pubic hair.
Genomic DNA: DNA mixture consistent with
DWM plus Karen Tipton, with 2 billion to one certainty it was
Karen's DNA, and 7.5 million to one certainty it was Moore's DNA
composing the mixture.
Mitochondrial DNA from the washed
hair: mDNA consistent with DWM, with 500 to one
certainty.
Sheryl Marsh also reported during trial, November
13, 2002, that "results from the private lab in New Orleans
concluded Dr. David Tipton could not be excluded as a DNA donor on
the hair." As a matter of fact, exactly the opposite was true. Dr.
Tipton was ruled out with 100% certainty as a donor on the bloody
hair--it was not his blood, and it was not his hair, and it was
proven with 100 percent certainty. The expert testified that my DNA
profile was unique--there were no matches to my DNA in the control
group data bank. In other words, Dr. Tipton's DNA didn't match the
blood, didn't match the hair, and didn't match any other known DNA
sample. This led to one of Halbrooks" best lines from the trial:
"Does this mean Dr. Tipton doesn't exist?' It shows her deep
understanding of DNA and statistical analysis. Why did the Daily
print such an obvious lie? Because Catherine Halbrooks and Sherman
Powell told them to. It's that simple. Halbrooks told the same lie
again later, and got it printed again, along with the daily male
visitor lie, and many, many more.
There is a reason the
defense, and the Daily, don't give you the truth on this matter of
public record--it's because if you understand these DNA results, it
means Moore is the guiltiest murderer in history. It's simple. There
can be no more credible, conclusive evidence of a rapist torturer
murderer's guilt than his own pubic hair left in the crime scene,
covered in the victim's blood. It's better than a dozen
fingerprints, a confession, an eyewitness, and a
videotape.
from www.karentiptonmurder.com
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debunker2
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reply to
Tornado18 about Tipton case
"3 - 5 years ago, a woman named Karen Tipton was
murdered"
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I can see you're gonna be a real authority on
this topic. It was 5 years ago, on
3-12-99.
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"The FBI has not turned in alot of
evidence"
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You must mean the confidentail
questionaires that concerned the victim's sexual history? Those were
to be used for an FBI profile, but the profile was scrapped when the
killer, Daniel Moore, was identified. It's all protected under the
rape shield law, should be inadmissable in court, and has nothing to
do with the murder case against Daniel Moore.
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Mr.
Moore is sitting in jail right now, which I know he did not do
it...
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How do you know he "did not do it"? Oddly
enough, he was convicted of capital murder by a jury of his peers.
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how come this guy is not being charged (with possession
of marijuana)?
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Well, the guy had just come home to
find his wife had been slaughtered by your friend Daniel Moore.
Guess the cops didn't want to haul him off for a misdemeanor
possession charge!
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when other people would get
charged because they have enough marijuana to cover the top of a
quarter
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Name one person this has happened to in the
past 10 years. One person. One newspaper citing. One weblink. We're
waiting.
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they found a bag of marijuana that
probably weight 8-15 pounds
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That's an odd claim since
the amount or weight was never revealed in court or told in the
papers. Fact is a policeman testified it was a misdemeanor amount,
defined as LESS THAN 2.2 lbs. Guess your story can't be true, huh?
Care to retract and apologize?
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Hey Little,
Diane Murphy = no credibility
Hey Little,
Here's one you missed from the Decatur Daily. By the
way, Moore's defense team was granted a hearing 10 weeks ago. They
asked for a dismissal of charges, claiming the prosecution withheld
evidence. Yet the defense DID NOT call Diane Murphy to the witness
stand. The Decatur Daily gave the local nut 3 front page stories.
But the defense team knew better than to put her on the stand. They
knew the prosecution would destroy her outrageous tales. Seems like
you've cited Murphy as some authority on the case. She certainly
isn't.
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Police question
credibility of
new
Tipton witness
Woman also claims knowledge
of unrelated
1997 murder case
By Sheryl Marsh and Scott Morris
DAILY
Staff Writers
news@decaturdaily.com · 340-2394
Decatur
police questioned the credibility of a new witness in the Karen
Tipton murder Thursday after she said she has information about both
the Tipton case and an unrelated death involving another woman.
Diane Murphy came forward recently to say that she heard a
man threaten to kill Tipton and saw him speeding away from near the
victim's home on the day of the murder.
In an unrelated
case, Murphy said, she saw a man who had just killed and buried his
girlfriend near Hartselle Mountain in 1997. Murphy said the case
involved David Crane, whom a jury convicted of killing Kay Martinez
in May 1999.
Murphy said she told Decatur police that she
found the grave, but they didn't take any action.
A police
official said officers have had several encounters with Murphy in
the past, but none involved a murder case.
Asked if Murphy
is a credible witness, police Capt. Ken Collier said, "Absolutely
not."
"It wouldn't surprise me for the defense lawyers in
this case to come up with an alien for a witness before this case is
done with," Collier said.
In both cases, Murphy, 59, said
the suspects followed her. One suspect threatened her, she said, and
the other asked her for a date.
Daniel Wade Moore's
attorneys, Catherine Halbrooks and Sherman Powell, filed a motion
Tuesday for acquittal or a new trial.
The motion includes
Murphy's affidavit saying that she saw a man arguing with Tipton and
the man threatened to kill her in Kmart two weeks before the murder.
A jury convicted Moore of capital murder in November for
Tipton's death and Circuit Judge Glenn Thompson sentenced him to
death in January.
Murphy said she reported what she
witnessed in the Tipton case to police, but no one called her to
testify.
Crane case
Murphy said she also told police
about her encounter in the Crane case.
"There's a Conoco
service station and a road behind the woods, and my grandson liked
to go back there and ride his bike," she said. "I didn't want him
back there by himself so I was back there with him. I looked and saw
this man coming out of the woods with a shovel. We left and he
followed me all the way to Hartselle to the dollar store. He came up
and asked me for a date, trying to get me out, and I wouldn't go.
"I called police and told them about it. They told me they
were not going to come out for that. They said they had to have more
information, not just a grave. Then, they told me to dig it up and I
said, 'No I'm not going to dig it up, that's not my place, it's
yours.' "
She said police laughed and told her it could be a
dog's grave.
"After they didn't do nothing, that was the end
of it for me. I left it alone, but then I felt good after two
hunters later found the woman's body," she said.
Murphy said
she does not know whom she talked to at the Police Department in
either the Tipton or the Martinez murders.
Investigator
responds
Retired Decatur investigator Jep Tallent said he
investigated the Martinez murder and he never talked to Murphy.
Tallent said a young couple, who discovered Martinez's body while
looking for deer tracks, provided the first report that he received
about the grave.
"I never heard of Mrs. Murphy. When we got
the report, we went to the area and called forensics, who dug up the
body," Tallent said.
Tipton murder
On the day of
Tipton's death, Murphy said, she saw a man racing away from a house
next door to Tipton on Chapel Hill Road Southwest. Murphy said the
man followed her to a stop sign and threatened her.
She said
it was the same man who threatened to kill Tipton in Kmart.
Murphy said the man was not wearing a shirt in the store.
This means he would have been shirtless in Kmart during February,
when the average mean temperature is 44 degrees.
Murphy said
she reported what she saw in Kmart and near the Tipton home to an
investigator who took her to the crime scene, but she does not
remember his name or what he looks like.
Police and witness
Collier said the Police Department has no record of Murphy
talking to investigators about either murder case, but officers are
familiar with her.
"We've responded to some complaints from
her and about her," he said, but added that he would not elaborate
on the details of the encounters.
According to records in
the city magistrate's office, police arrested Murphy for
third-degree assault in October 2002 on a warrant filed by a
Danville woman. The woman, Teresa Smith, claimed that Murphy
attacked her during an argument between others over a smashed
mailbox.
Smith said Murphy "reached up and clawed my bad eye
and down my face, then began to fight with me," according to
records.
The court dismissed the misdemeanor case before
trial by mutual consent of both parties.
In 1990, records
show, police arrested Murphy for resisting arrest. Police said they
responded to a complaint about loud music at the former Murphy
Apartments, now home to the Salvation Army family shelter. When they
tried to arrest a man for disorderly conduct, police said, Murphy
cursed them and "physically charged toward them with a lit
cigarette."
Murphy paid a $94 fine and court costs for
resisting arrest, records show.
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Re: Hey Little,
Diane Murphy = no credibility
Hi debunker2,
I honestly had not heard about this case before,
and when I did a search I was surprised at how much infomation there
was. I honestly tried to place some stories which gave an overall
view though and I apologize if it appeared I was posting one
favoring one person's word over another. That was not my intention.
As I was reading through the news stories I did realize that there
was more to this than the initial post. Thank you for adding
something more to this story.
Little
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Tornado18
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Re: Karen Tipton
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Catherine Halbrooks came to my school, and I am just pointing out
what mainly interest me. Such as her saying that alot of evidence
hasn't been turned in and about him not being charged for the
marijuana. Something else, wouldnt you think a "normal" person would
be crying if he just came home to find that his wife had been
killed. According to Catherine that he did not shed a tear. What the
mess, doesnt that say something there. I seriously think he had
something to do with it.
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debunker2
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question for
tornado
I think it's shameful to hear that Catherine Halbrooks came to your
school to slander the murder victim's husband. What school do you
attend? And please remember Catherine Halbrooks is paid to defend
Daniel Moore, the killer. Don't expect her to be open or truthful
about the case. Matter of fact, she's been caught in a number of
lies concerning the case. Don't believe me? Visit this website. Then
tell me what you think about it.
http://www.karentiptonmurder.com/
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debunker2
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Halbrooks'
vicious lie
And Halbrooks actually told you that the murder victim's husband
never cried? And you believed it? HOW WOULD SHE KNOW? She wasn't
there, was she? There's no way she could know this. This is a real
person that you're posting your ill-informed opinions about! I knew
the victim. I know the victim's husband. I know his children. He and
his children have cried an ocean of tears over her loss. He had
nothing to do with the murder whatsoever and there's not a shred of
evidence that he did. There's only lies and hateful rumors from
Catherine Halbrooks, who is paid to defend the killer. It's a shame
none of your classmates were sharp enough to ask Halbrooks how in
the world she could know whether the husband cried or not!
http://www.karentiptonmurder.com/
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Tornado18
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(4/7/04 2:52 pm)
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Re: Halbrooks'
vicious lie
I made a mistake, I didn't mean to type that Catherine was there
and saw him cry. I meant to say that when they had the paper out,
they had a picture of him standing there, and maybe he was in too
much "shock" or something. But it didn't even look like he was
crying to me. Not only me but a numerous of others believe that the
husband had to have something to do with it. Another thing out of
curosity, how come they had such an...well, open relationship. I
mean, I thought marriage was suppose to be a loyal thing and
everything, but I heard that well..she slept around, and so did he,
that they werent very loyal to each other, whys that. Plus,
something else was said that they ran two test on those hairs found
from Karen's house. They said they were Daniel's hairs right? But
then Catherine said something about that one of the test that they
were doing wasn't...let me think how to put this...said it wasnt a
very...uhm, I guess you would say a reliable source. Which one of
those test was it.
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Litesnite
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(4/7/04 12:36 pm)
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,.,
wrong door....
Edited by: Litesnite
at: 4/7/04 7:43 pm
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Litesnite
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(4/7/04 12:57 pm)
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3 doors down?
Edited by: Litesnite
at: 4/7/04 7:44 pm
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Litesnite
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at: 4/7/04 7:46 pm
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shill0516
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Re: WELL,
WELL,
Is there something substantial to back up the claim of an "open"
relationship between the Tipton's? IMO, slanderous remarks by the
defense team and the media, do not make things true.
Quote:
But then Catherine said something about that one of the test that
they were doing wasn't...let me think how to put this...said it
wasnt a very...uhm, I guess you would say a reliable source. Which
one of those test was it.
The tests performed were
mitochondrial and genomic DNA tests. More information on
mitochondrial DNA testing can be found here:
www.mitotyping.com/dna.htm Note: All appellate decisions handed down to
date have upheld mtDNA testing
More information on genomic DNA
testing can be found
here:www.genome.ou.edu/protocol_book/protocol_partIII.html
I'm
sure you will find these links very educational.
DNA results
are pretty irrefutable. There are people being set free because of
DNA now. I think DNA should be used to keep DWM locked up. BTW, Dr.
Tipton was excluded 100%, that means there is no way the hair or the
blood came from him.
If you are unsure of the differences in
the two tests, or of the source, please do some research and present
us with your theories.
Also, as a personal request, please
do not attack the victim. The way Karen Tipton lived is not the
issue here, the horrific way she died is.
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debunker2
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(4/7/04 9:29 pm)
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important
message to Tornado
Tornado, I'll be glad to answer your questions as best I can. First
let me ask you what school you go to, and when was Halbrooks
there?
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Also, what photo are you referring to? The only
photo I saw was from a newspaper and it was taken from a great
distance. It would have been impossible to tell much at all about a
facial expression, much less whether he'd been crying. Were you
shown a newpaper clipping or a photograph? Let me hear from you on
these things. I'd appreciate it.
Debunker2
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Tornado18
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(4/8/04 10:10 pm)
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Re: important
message to Tornado
Debunker, I think it was a newspaper clipping that I saw. I've been
wondering when they were going to start picking up on this case
again. I think the last time I saw anything in the newspaper about
this murder was like...I dont know, I'd say almost a year ago now.
Hallbrooks said something about wanting another trial, and that they
were going to leave Moore in jail until they could get him another
trial. Also, thanks to the person who said something about the two
test that was run. Hallbrooks said something about the mitochrondial
or which ever one it was that was speeled something like that, she
said something about it not being too reliable or something like
that anyways.
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debunker2
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(4/8/04 11:48 pm)
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message for
tornado
Thanks, Tornado. Where was this at? Was it at Austin High? and how
long ago was it? Tell me more.
Thank you!
debunker
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Tornado18
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(4/9/04 5:45 pm)
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Re: message for
tornado
No ma'am/sir, not sure which one you are, not in an offensive way
of course =). This was at DHS, and I say it was...not even a month
ago, I think.
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